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First Generation AFTER the End: What Was the Great Tribulation
by Edward E. Stevens

This article appeared in the 2025 Summer issue of Fulfilled! Magazine

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Before continuing our studies of the First Generation AFTER the End, we need to revisit the Great Tribulation. There is difference of opinion within Preterism regarding the historical identity of the Great Tribulation (GT) and how it is sequenced in relation to the other end-time events.

For instance, some preterists define the GT as referring only to the wrath that was poured out on the Jews in the Destruction of Jerusalem, while others define it as including both persecution of the saints and wrath-outpouring on the Jews.

We might wonder whether these different definitions of the GT really matter, but if we mis-identify and mis-sequence the GT, then we will also mis-sequence some of the other end-time events that are related to it.

For instance, here is one scenario:

  • If the GT is defined as the persecution on the church,
  • And the Parousia began “immediately after” the GT was “cut short,”
  • And the wrath was poured out during the Parousia,
  • This is the proper sequence: GT persecution → Parousia → Wrath out-pouring

But notice what happens if the GT is re-defined:

  • If the GT is defined as wrath-outpouring only,
  • And the GT was “cut short” at the destruction of Jerusalem,
  • Then the wrath was poured out before the Parousia began.
  • This sequence is flawed: GT wrath poured out → Parousia → Wrath already poured out

Since one of the main purposes of the Parousia was to pour out the wrath on the Jews, then sequencing the Parousia “immediately after” the destruction of Jerusalem would imply that Christ came to pour out the wrath AFTER the wrath had already been poured out! That simply will not work.


Wrath DURING the Parousia – NOT Before It

It would not have been much of a relief, rescue, or salvation for those saints if they had to suffer through both the Neronic persecution and the wrath-outpouring without getting the promised relief and rescue until AFTER the wrath was poured out. That would have been “too little and too late” to be of any significant benefit.

Instead, Apostle Paul taught that the saints were destined for tribulation (1 Thess 3:3), but NOT for the wrath (1 Thess 5:9). And he promised that at the Parousia they would be rescued from the coming wrath BEFORE it was poured out on their persecutors (1Thess. 1:10). Paul makes that sequence even more explicit in 2 Thessalonians 1:6-8 where he said that the relief, rescue, and retribution [wrath] would come DURING the Parousia — NOT before it.


Two Phases of the Great Tribulation

In my article (Sequencing the Tribulation) in the Spring 2021 issue of Fulfilled! Magazine, we examined three key texts in Matthew 24 which mention “tribulation” (verses 9, 21-22, 29) and concluded that there were two phases to the Great Tribulation:

(1) The Neronic persecution of Christians (AD 64-66)

(2) The wrath-outpouring upon the Jews (AD 66-70)

Thus, immediately after the Neronic persecution was “cut short” by the outbreak of the Zealot rebellion (May 66), Christ came with His angels to rescue the saints before He poured out His wrath on their persecutors (AD 66-70). This shows that the Neronic persecution was the first phase of the GT and properly sequences it in relation to the Parousia and other end-time events.

Furthermore, it is worthy of note that Kurt Simmons agrees that there were at least two phases to the GT, and that the first phase included the Neronic persecution [Consummation of the Ages (2003), pp. 166-169; and Revelation Explained (2010), p. 23].


Identity of the GT is Disputed

In his Second Negative (points 26-31) in our debate about the first-century Rapture, Don K. Preston asserted: “Stevens offers us WHAT MAY WELL BE A FIRST IN HISTORY! … He claims that the Neronian persecution … was the Great Tribulation (Second Affirmative, pts. 20-21). THIS IS A HISTORICALLY UNPRECEDENTED CLAIM. … There is NO EVIDENCE to support [it].” [ALL CAPS are his. Boldface added.]

That is like Thomas Ice asserting that there is not a shred of evidence to support Gary DeMar’s preterist view. But then, DeMar and Gumerlock wrote a book which provided boatloads of evidence, and Thomas Ice had to eat some crow!

Below, we will see that Jesus was the “FIRST IN HISTORY” to connect the Neronic persecution to the GT, and there were others afterward who made the same connection. Let’s look at some of that “EVIDENCE.”


Two References to the Great Tribulation

Matthew 24:21 is not the only text which mentions the Great Tribulation. The other reference is Revelation 7:14. And since both texts are in a context of intense persecution, and neither is described as being exclusively wrath-outpouring, it necessarily implies that the GT included both persecution on the Church and wrath out-pouring on the Jews.

Revelation 7:14 uses the phrase “THE great tribulation” (with the definite article) referring to the martyrdom of “a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues.” This included Gentile Christians from all over the Roman world — NOT just Jewish Christians in Judea. And that perfectly fits the Neronic persecution.

That is why many commentaries see both Revelation 7:14 and Matthew 24:21 as referring to the same GT. For example, J. S. Russell not only sees both texts as alluding to the same GT, but also describes it as being a time of unparalleled persecution “like that which took place under Nero” [The Parousia, p. 372] –

The religion of Jesus of Nazareth was a proscribed and persecuted faith over the whole Roman Empire before the outbreak of the Jewish war … Accordingly, the redeemed in the vision, the ‘white-robed multitude,’ are said to come out of great tribulation [Rev. 7:14]: an expression which gives us a clue to the determination of the time and the persons here referred to. Our Lord, when predicting the season of unparalleled affliction that was to precede the catastrophe of Jerusalem and Judea, says, ‘Then shall be great tribulation [thlipsis megale], such as was not since the beginning of the world,’ etc. (Matt 24:21). Now in the statement in [Rev 7:14], ‘These are they that came out of great tribulation,’ there is an unquestionable allusion to our Lord’s words. The proper rendering, as Alford points out, is – ‘These are they that came out of THE great tribulation [ek tes thlipseos tes megales], the definite article being most emphatic, and THE tribulation plainly in allusion to the prediction in Matt 24:21 [J. S. Russell, The Parousia (1878), pp. 405-406; bold emphasis and brackets added].


Both References Came from Jesus!

The vision of the Great Tribulation in Revelation 7:14 was part of the sixth seal (Rev 6:12–7:17) which was revealed by the Lamb (Jesus Himself). Thus, it seems impossible to believe that Jesus could be talking about a totally different GT here in Revelation 7:14 than the one He mentioned in His Olivet Discourse (Matt 24:21).

So, this time of unparalleled persecution which produced such a great multitude of martyrs (Rev 7:14) had to be the same GT which Jesus originally predicted in His Olivet Discourse (Matt 24:21-22), which He said would be “cut short for the sake of the elect” so that some of those saints would remain alive until the Parousia. If that persecution had continued unabated, “none of the elect would have survived” (Matt 24:22, paraphrase). So, this description of the GT perfectly fits the Neronic persecution which was “cut short” by the outbreak of the Zealot rebellion (May 12th, AD 66).

Thus, if there is any doubt about what Jesus meant when He referred to the GT in Matthew 24:21, it is totally clarified when compared to Revelation 7:14. The less clear (Matt 24:21) is elucidated by the more clear (Rev 7:14). And since Revelation 7:14 clearly depicts the Neronic persecution, it necessarily implies that Matthew 24:21 also alludes to it. And that means Jesus was the “FIRST IN HISTORY” to connect the Neronic persecution to the GT!


Both John and Paul Would Agree

Moreover, since Apostle John was present on the Mount of Olives thirty-two years earlier when Jesus spoke the Olivet Discourse, he would certainly remember (under inspiration) Jesus’ statements about the GT (Matt 24:21). Thus, if the Holy Spirit speaking through John was referring to a totally different GT, we would have expected John to clarify that distinction. But since there is no such clarification, it necessarily implies (and demands) that they are the same GT.

And this aligns perfectly with Apostle Paul who explained that the saints were “destined to suffer tribulation” (1 Thess 3:3) but were NOT destined to go through the wrath (1 Thess 5:9). Instead, they would be relieved of their persecution (i.e., “cut short”) and rescued from the wrath BEFORE it was poured out (1 Thess 1:10; 5:9; 2 Thess 1:6-8). ♰


For more evidence that the Neronic persecution was included in the Great Tribulation, see my March 2013 historical podcasts,1 my 2014 Final Decade book (pages 150-175),2 and my First Affirmative in the debate with Don Preston.

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Comments:

Ian Thomson June 22, 2025
Thank you Ed for a most stimulating article! May I take issue with a few matters?
I believe the GT is defined in the Olivet Discourse as wrath-outpouring on the Jews, not persecution of the saints. The Great Tribulation is “cut short” so the saints could flee Judea. So they were told “when you see the The Abomination of Desolation (Matthew 24:16) and when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Luke 21:20).
The sequence in Matthew 24 & Mark 13 is: they see the Abomination of Desolation, the saints flee, GT, Parousia

The sequence in Luke 21 is: when they see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, the saints flee, GT, Parousia

The wrath would not be poured out until the saints had escaped. Thus many lives would be saved.

Now about the tribulations of the saints

The suffering of the saints in Thessalonica was persecution from Jews. It was not a Neronic persecution or the great tribulation. We see this in context in I Thes 3:3-4, 2:14-16 and 2 Thes 1:4–8.

We also note that Jesus warned the disciples that ‘great’ persecution would come from Jews, synagogues and even family members. Jesus did not warn them against Neronic persecution —see Luke 21:12-1.

Finally concerning Revelation 7:14.
I note the Greek participle is in present continuous which suggests those saints are coming out of this great tribulation. Then in 7:9 it says John saw they were a vast crowd, too great to count, from every nation and tribe and people and language. This must include Gentiles. This suggests

I think John’s phrase ‘are coming out’ could mean they are escaping the GT—they are coming out by fleeing Jerusalem. Are we told these saints are martyrs? Or do translators just assume they have been killed for Jesus’ sake? This is unclear, no more clear than Matthew 14:21.
Thank you.


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